Pulling the Thread with Elise Loehnen

Pulling the Thread with Elise Loehnen

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Contending with Panic (Matt Gutman)

Contending with Panic (Matt Gutman)

Listen now (67 mins) | “And I think a lot of us embody this, what I call the paradox of the courageous coward, right? Like, we're capable of doing these things that are bonkers..."

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Sep 15, 2023
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Matt Gutman is an ABC Chief National Correspondent and the author of No Time to Panic: How I Curbed My Anxiety and Conquered a Lifetime of Panic Attacks. Matt is a new friend, and I’ve loved getting to know him and his deeply feeling heart, as well as the way he so perfect…

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