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There Are Two Moves When Faced with Uncertainty (Francis Weller)

Listen now (55 mins) | “We’re not empty containers just being filled up with fear and terror and trauma. We’re also medicine carriers.”

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Elise Loehnen
Aug 21, 2025
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Many of you will know Francis Weller from his incredibly moving conversations about grief with Anderson Cooper. Francis worked as a psychotherapist for more than four decades, and he has written some of the most beautiful books on making sense of the human experience.

One of his…

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